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Wednesday 14 August 2013

How Is The Procedure To Get A CNI Letter To Marry A German Citizen (CNI Part 1)

Intro Strawberries

Hi lovelies, i know that i have put these kinds of information in my blog few times ago. But somehow with my strawberries' shrubs inside of my head all the information from the blogs, sites, even from friends were being translated into encrypted codes that i have not gotten the idea how they will be de-coded into my normal language. Hmmm now You do understand how my desperate brain calls desperate action. And these are the results of my try and error in doing the process of CNI-Certificate of No Impediment or Certificate of Legal Capacity.

Do remember i made this blog on August 2013, there might be some changes in the future or even now, that i do not know about, please kindly inform me for helping others with these horrendous process.

First of all as a bride or a groom to be from Indonesia, You my lovelies, must achieve this CNI letter. You can get it from Indonesia but me and my hubby choose the process in getting it from German since it is cheaper and the doer does not need to go to Capitol to process it. Different with Indonesia's bureaucracy, we need to go back forward from our hometown to Jakarta for any legalization process. And i believe this might take time, energy, money and most of all Your heart.

What is a CNI letter? CNI is The Certificate of No Impediment to marriage or in simple words it is a letter to certify that the bride or the groom to be from different countries can held the marriage ceremony legally with You and can be ensured to be acknowledged by both countries. In this case we have to be sure bout the requirement of this letter since not all countries in the world request CNI for any interracial marriage. But if You are marrying German citizens, yes this is one of the requirements.

Remember my lovelies, not all countries require this CNI letter. So if You are planning Your marriage with a foreigner, first thing You have to check is their official website from the country. Do find the part about interracial marriage. Then You can move on by checking the rules in our Indonesian's Foreign Ministry website about the wedding between You and Your intended. And pweaseeee if Your spouse to be is an Indonesian, do skip in reading these mumble jumbles hihihi.


Papers To Be Prepared For Indonesian's Citizen

Now we go on to the headaches process. All the process and papers to be prepared. One thing is for sure, let Yourself feel relax when You fall due to the pressures and difficulties. I am here for You and let Your loved one know the grueling process. Definitely the old phrase No Pain No Gain is appropriate for these thingies.

Without any ado, please be ready with:

1. Birth Certificate (they will ask the newest edition not least than 6 months period, and it might be difficult in here to get it since Indonesian's Government does not issue again and again the birth certificate. Hmmm do You think we can pretend to be re-born hihihi)
2. A single status letter (*
3. A domisili letter (**
4. A letter of N1, N2, and N4 (***
5. Passport

Process To Be Done In Your City

We can do these letters below by using 1 letter from RT/RW but please ask them to mention all the letters that You need to make. It will definitely cut the times and hassles. Remember, put all the letter names on it; a domisili letter with the specimen letter from Kelurahan, a single status, N1, N2 and N4. Mayhap they wont ask You to write in details like what i wrote above. But incase they are asking like in my area, it will be easier if You get the letter(s) from RT/RW in one go.

A single status letter

To get this letter we need to:
1. We go to RT by bringing KSK and ID-Card the real documents and the copies. And ask them to issue the letter for Pengurusan Pernikahan.
2. Then we go to RW to get the legalization of the letter.
3. After that we bring the letter and go to Kelurahan and they will issue A Single Status Letter for us. Off course there will be some silly questions about why and the reasons for making it, but be cool, calm and confidence and envelope with some money inside will definitely smoothed the awkward moments.  
4. After You get the letter, please go to KUA that is in the same jurisdiction with Your ID-Card.
5. Please tell them once again why do You need the letter. Since the letter is confirmed by Kelurahan based on our data but it must be issued and legalized (3 copies) by the authority KUA. Do not accept their lame explanation that the letter from Kelurahan is enough, and they just need to put a stamp and sign it. We spent some money for that silly notion from Surabaya to Jakarta. But alhamdulillah subhanAllah we found some enlightenment and entertainments there hihihi.  

A domisili letter with a specimen letter

1. We go to RT by bringing KSK and ID-Card the real documents and the copies. And ask them to issue the letter for Pengurusan Pernikahan.
2. Then we go to RW to get the legalization of the letter.
3. After that we bring the letter from RT/RW and go to Kelurahan. In Kelurahan they will issue the Letter of Domisili and the specimen* for us. Off course there will always be some silly questions about why and the reasons for making it, but be cool, calm and confidence and envelope with some money inside will definitely smoothed the awkward moments.
4. We must copy the letter 3x and ask them to legalize and stamp them.

* specimen is a letter with the head letter of the institution (in here it is Kelurahan) to certify the name(s), paraf and signature on the domisili letter are valid. I will give You more info bout it when You need it.

N1, N2, and N4 Letters

1. We go to RT by bringing KSK and ID-Card the real documents and the copies. And ask them to issue the letter of RT/RW for Pengurusan Pernikahan.
2. Then we go to RW to get the legalization of the letter.
3. After that we take the letter from RT/RW and go to Kelurahan. In Kelurahan they will issue those N1, N2 and N4 letters for us. Off course there will be some questions about why and the reasons for making it, just answer as straight as You can. Because it is no use in showing a temper with them, it might put You in a bad light.
These letters will be needed again for asking permition to marry in KUA for further process.
  

Process To Be Done In Jakarta

In Jakarta basicaly we need to get all the original papers to be signed, stamped and legalised or to have another papers to be issued by one of these Government offices. And some of them need to be translated first before we can ask the legalisation process as above.

1. Bring all Your papers above with the ID-Card, Birth Certificate and Passport with their copies. Always separete the copies from the real thingies. Make it sure each original papers have been copied 3x. Do not forget to bring all the data of Your spouse to be; birth certificate, passport and single status (copies and the original if You can, if Your intended is not in Indonesia do bring the copies only, who knows they can forego the thing right?). 

2. Bring Your KUA single status letter to Department of Religion in Jakarta to get a legalization at MH. Thamrin No 6 Jakarta Pusat  Telephone - (021) 392-0245 (Bagian Kepenghuluan on 7th Floor) Working Hours at 08:00 - 15:00 Monday - Friday
Beware if Your intended is a non-moslem that becomes a muallaf, it must be proven that he / she has a moslem certificate that You can show. In my case because my hubby is a moslem and in German there is none whatsoever of legal documents can stated someone's religion, it was quite difficult to make the office agreed in legalizing my documents. Until somehow i could produce the copies of his itinerary for his ticket to go home from Malaysian Airlines. There it stated that he is a moslem. Alhamdulillah right my lovelies, rather than their solution to bring him from German to Jakarta goooosh....sometimes i wonder who is the strawberries' head in here. Me or them *pouting and sulking*

3. Bring KUA letter that has been legalized by Department of Religion, Domisili letter plus the specimen, and other letters in Ministry of Justice to get admission and legalization. In here all Your documents need to be legalised. Mind You that they will legalise the original one. Not the copies. The office is at HR. Rasuna Said  Kuningan, Jakarta Selatan

4. After that bring all the papers in Ministry of Foreign Affair at Ditjen Protokol dan Konsuler, Direktorat Konsuler, Subdirektorat"Clearance and Legalisation" Taman Pejambon No 6  Jakarta Pusat. This visit is definitely not a social visitation lol since it is once again to get legalisation from this office, saying that You my lovelies is ready with all Your Indonesian's papers to continue to the next part.

5. Then bring all the papers in German's Embassy (Consular Departement  At MH. Thamrin No 1 Jakarta Pusat (next to Mandarin Hotel) Visitation hours 08:00 - 11:30 am  Monday - Friday  021-390-1750 / 3989-9591  
They will tell You which papers or documents that needs to be translated into German. It will cost You 25,00 - 45,00 Euro but please paid in Rupiah.

After those process are done, then send all the documents to Your spouse to be so he/she can continue the process in making CNI.

In case You are a widower or a widow / a divorce or divorcee, You need to legalize Your Surat Cerai (Divorce Paper) and Surat Keputusan Cerai (Divorce Decision) in Mahkamah Agung at Direktorat Jenderal Peradilan Agama Gedung Bersama Satu Atap Mahkamah Agung RI Ahmad Yani Kav 58 By Pass Jakarta Pusat 021- 390-7050 
    

Notes - in the end after i knew all these information, due to my limited time and finance, we choose to contact a nice and lovely lady who is doing these thingies as her job. Do ask me about her if You think You might need her service. I have asked her to spread out her service. So just contact me for her info. And insyaAllah it will be barokallah. Alhamdulillah she is amanah and honest. May Allah bless her and her family for helping many couples with these process.
And please do save some copies for every paper that You have made for You might need it for next process.

ano note
The Original of CNI must not be given to any department for You will need it for the legalization part of Your Marriage Books next time.
Annnnnnd CNI is actually a paper to be shown to Embassy of Germany for them to issue the Permit Marriage Letter. In which this last paper is needed for Your marriage process in KUA. Once again dont give the real one, give the copy with the legalisation or try like what we did, we gave the scanned part. Because in legalization process of Your marriage books in Depag Jakarta they ask this original letter. While actually KUA for Your ceremony also need the real one bwahahaha....what a messy rules.
   

3 comments:

  1. Can you give me the name of the lady who assisted you? thanks. TPS

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    1. hiiii so sorry i just being so hectic with my papers lately so i dont open my blog for a long time. She is an Indonesian lady from Jakarta, mba Santi. For further infor just give me Your email and i can send Your her number and email. Hope it is helping You though its a lil bit late.

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    2. hi..my email is aqeel70@gmail.com..can you send me the contact details of mba santi? hope you open your blog

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